So, too, if you die on Thursday, because you were doing something, cleaning windows in a skyscraper, you're still going to get money in your bank account to the date that you worked, on Friday, a week from the day that you died. Joshua Unseth (00:21:25): Maybe, but even then, even if it was and you're sick, we have direct deposit. That's the only reason you would want to be paid immediately, right?. To paid in streaming, you need your work to basically be super, super important and dangerous, I'm guessing. John Carvalho (00:21:13): Yeah, I mean, you would miss it. I don't care what anybody tells you, it's just not. Workers getting paid on a two-week time span or every second that they're working, it's really not that different. I tend to think that they have some of the dumbest ideas.
I tend to be very critical of libertarians. And I don't think that those applicant, like I don't know. I do think that goes to a lot of the applications I hear people like Elizabeth Stark talk about like streaming payments for workers are absolutely in name very stupid.
Joshua Unseth (00:20:27): Yeah, I don't think it will be free by any means, but I do think that they'll be cheap enough that you could actually send a 30 cent or 40 cent tip to somebody and that would be great. John Carvalho (00:20:19): And that will eventually come bleak into Lightning, too, because Lightning transactions will just be cheaper than Bitcoin transactions, but not necessarily cheap. And right now, even that is a suspect as to whether a transaction will be mined at that rate. If the Brave browser provides value people think it does, then I think particularly as Lightning gets underway, I think it's a little hard to give people these small tips when you have to pay 40 cents or 60 cents to have it on to get anything through unchained. And I actually think that represents a pretty good opportunity for Bitcoiners. But I agree, there are neat applications out there that people have built with shitcoins that they could easily throw Bitcoin on, but they don't. Joshua Unseth (00:19:36): Instead, they released their own token. Joshua Unseth (00:19:22): This is the Brave browser problem, I would say, right? Brave browser would have been a very cool product where you were tipping people in Bitcoin all over the internet. It's not best example, but we have DLCs, for example, and these are just a different way of doing smart contracts, but we don't have this on chain, so there are different challenges for kind of coordinating using this. In other words, it will just be a matter of integrating Bitcoin in this way with peers intentionally and you'll be able to do the cool shitcoin stuff. John Carvalho (00:18:42): I have a feeling that a lot of the actual interesting things like the closest to being realistically interesting things that are happening on shitcoins and supposedly not on Bitcoin, I actually think they're going to be like discovered as decentralized web tech first.
But it is an interesting prospect to be able to point to it and say to people, " You can do that on Ethereum, but you can do it just as easily in Bitcoin with exactly the same language." I don't think it's necessarily any more useful on Bitcoin. If we do have a widely used EDM on Bitcoin or one that is easily accessible, it kills a lot of propositions that Ethereum makes. But I'd be curious to look at it, because I don't know if they've actually got the EDM functioning out of it or not or what the state of that project is. Joshua Unseth (00:18:03): Yeah, I mean, it could very well be. And I don't really think there's actually real hype or interest there for what they're doing. And now this bull market, I really feel like it's just the bull market that revived them. But I really feel like I remember the last bull market, they resurfaced and they did an ICO and now, they have two tokens or something. I remember, we probably both researched it at some point, back in 2016 or 2015, or whatever, but I haven't done it lately. I will fully disclaim ignorance on Rootstock at the moment. It does kind of remove a lot of the claims about like Ethereum, right?
I mean like, "Go ahead." I think that will be an interesting thing. Joshua Unseth (00:17:21): But I do think there's some interesting stuff like Rootstock bringing the EDM to Bitcoin. Narratives to be the reason that drives that speculation.